Baketeriya ch2

[Koro]

Baketeriya



Well, someone had to break PROzess's killstreak.
Now excuse me while I help Makoto get laid.

btw, 12 hour delay for Batoto. Not sure when/why we implemented that.

Read Online: Japanzai Reader || Batoto
Download: Japanzai

[Shin_hannin]

Arigatou!!!! 

I also knew some groups who have 12-24 hour delay policy in batoto. In my opinion, sites like mangafox will benefit more on a 12-hour delay policy since they can rip-off releases faster than that, not to mention batoto doesn't have a web feed to broadcast its releases.

[Amplify]

I'm also of the opinion that a release delay for Batoto is always a terrible idea, regardless of the circumstances.

It's basically just saying "I want mangafox and mangareader to have an X hour head start!" which can never be a good thing.

[Shin_hannin]

I'm also of the opinion that a release delay for Batoto is always a terrible idea, regardless of the circumstances.

It's basically just saying "I want mangafox and mangareader to have an X hour head start!" which can never be a good thing.

We have a diverging opinion on that one. Creating a delay works for the benefit of japanzai since people will flock here if they want to read it firsthand. What I am pointing out is a 12-hour delay usually end up in favor of sites like mangafox who take great lengths to rip off releases. The delay policy should be shortened to around 1 hour to 6 hours at most to minimize this effect.

[Hoanek SJ]

Thank you

[Jay-kun]

Thanks! :D

[Amplify]

I'm also of the opinion that a release delay for Batoto is always a terrible idea, regardless of the circumstances.

It's basically just saying "I want mangafox and mangareader to have an X hour head start!" which can never be a good thing.

Creating a delay works for the benefit of japanzai since people will flock here if they want to read it firsthand.

And if this was automatically the place people would go instead I'd agree with you, but I suspect many just go to a large aggregator instead. Anybody who would come here directly for their fix, probably already does so.

Besides let's face it, how many people even realise that a chapter has been uploaded to Batoto but there's a delay on it and they should visit the scanlator's site to get it there instead? I'm pretty familiar with many groups but that shit took me several months before I realised that's what was happening.
To most people it would just look like fox/reader have what Batoto doesn't and that by the time it comes out on Batoto it's already too late since they've gotten their fix elsewhere.

[imercenary]

I'm also of the opinion that a release delay for Batoto is always a terrible idea, regardless of the circumstances.

It's basically just saying "I want mangafox and mangareader to have an X hour head start!" which can never be a good thing.

Creating a delay works for the benefit of japanzai since people will flock here if they want to read it firsthand.

And if this was automatically the place people would go instead I'd agree with you, but I suspect many just go to a large aggregator instead. Anybody who would come here directly for their fix, probably already does so.

Besides let's face it, how many people even realise that a chapter has been uploaded to Batoto but there's a delay on it and they should visit the scanlator's site to get it there instead? I'm pretty familiar with many groups but that shit took me several months before I realised that's what was happening.
To most people it would just look like fox/reader have what Batoto doesn't and that by the time it comes out on Batoto it's already too late since they've gotten their fix elsewhere.

I agree.

Unless you're already in the know, figuring out when and where to go to read the newest releases is so difficult that most people just throw their hands up in the air and say "screw it, I'll wait for X manga aggregate site to put it up".

That said, thanks for all the scanlations.

[Amplify]

A feature that Batoto desperately needs, is that when a chapter is uploaded to the site but there is a scanlator mandated release delay on it, is that it adds it to the list of newly released manga and the list for that manga as normal but with (delay) by the name and clicking on it takes you straight to the scanlator's release post for said chapter instead of the Batoto hosted version of it until the delay has expired.

If that were added then I could completely agree with a release delay of something like 6 hours for anybody wanting additional traffic.

[Shin_hannin]

For new releases, I don't actually read on batoto unless necessary since manga updates always take me to the scanlator's official site.

[Amplify]

For new releases, I don't actually read on batoto unless necessary since manga updates always take me to the scanlator's official site.

You do, most don't.

[Shin_hannin]

You do, most don't.

And I don't see why they won't start soon. There is a difference between just reading a book and appreciating it - appreciative readers will always look for ways to thank the author even by just posting on his/her blog.

If you're in a hurry to read Japanzai's releases, you could always subscribe to the web feed you know.  It will be way faster than reading it on mangafox or mangahere.

[Amplify]

You do, most don't.

And I don't see why they won't start soon. There is a difference between just reading a book and appreciating it - appreciative readers will always look for ways to thank the author even by just posting on his/her blog.

If you're in a hurry to read Japanzai's releases, you could always subscribe to the web feed you know.  It will be way faster than reading it on mangafox or mangahere.

I am subscribed to many scanlator's feeds and have it all linked back to my google homepage, you're picking a fight here that you really don't need to do.

I'm talking about all leechers / fans as a whole; most people will just go to Batoto's homepage (or mangafox or mangareader, or wherever) and just check there on their favourites list and a quick scan down the most recently released chapters for the sake of convenience, since they can just instantly read the new chapter instead of a roundabout spiderweb of checking multiple group webpages, only some of which have their own reader. Why can't they just download the new chapters? There are many who aren't doing this on their personal computer so they're unable to download anything and have to use online readers instead. Besides, RSS feeds really only works at all for your own computer.

Heck, even though I'm subscribed to a whole bunch of scanlator site updates I still have to check Batoto anyway just for the groups I'm not subscribed to, either because they don't have a feed or because if I subscribe to any more it'll be a little ridiculous and unmanageable.

Regardless, it doesn't seem you're going to listen to common sense, so never mind I guess.

[Shin_hannin]

I am subscribed to many scanlator's feeds and have it all linked back to my google homepage, you're picking a fight here that you really don't need to do.

Heck, even though I'm subscribed to a whole bunch of scanlator site updates I still have to check Batoto anyway just for the groups I'm not subscribed to, either because they don't have a feed or because if I subscribe to any more it'll be a little ridiculous and unmanageable.

I'm not picking a fight here, sorry if it sounded like that. I'm lazy as hell to do that  The way I see it, subscribe to manga updates and you'll have all the groups and all the manga updates you need.

Besides,
RSS feeds really only works at all for your own computer.

RSS and atom feeds works for all computers even if they're not your own. You can read them on a tablet, on a desktop, on the internet cafe, on a laptop, on a phone. It's not a push technology that requires a username and password, it's actually a "pull" technology in a sense. 

[Amplify]

You're expecting people by and large to be;

A: Smart enough to not be using mangafox & mangahere in the first place, as well as smart enough to realise when a chapter uploaded to Batoto and isn't accessible that it isn't there because of a release delay
B: Not too lazy to go to said scanlator's site and download it there instead of just checking mangafox for it "to see if it's not glitched there" or something along those lines
C: Be in a position to go downloading chapters and reading them thatway, rather than online

I don't care how optimistic you are, that's still a losing bet (you have better odds of PROzess and NOEZ secretly being BFF). Half of the people are just going to go "mangafox has it, Batoto doesn't, so I'll just use mangafox instead" and nearly all of the rest would just read it whenever the new chapter hits Batoto's latest release listing without ever realising there was a delay at all in the first place.

That's why I suggested that Batoto could seriously do with it alerting people to a new released chapter and then straight up linking them to the scanlator's site to get it there instead of the file simply not being found, in the case of a release delay. That would fix 90% of the problem and without it there's literally no good reason to have a delay that isn't heavily outweighed by the bad of sending the more ignorant masses back to mangafox after having read the adverts of "come get the latest chapter on Batoto before anywhere else!*"
(*- Unless there's a delay, then mangafox will have it 12 hours or more before us)